Following-up from my earlier post, http://blog.davidesp.com/archives/910
Summary:
- In a nested sequence situation, I’m getting short audio repeats from a clip element just prior to a cut.
- Solution: for the nested sequence, do menu:[Sequence > Render Audio].
- That’s just the audio, not the clip/effects etc. It’s an extremely fast process.
Context:
- Premiere Pro CC, latest version at time of writing (7.0.1 (105), under Windows 7 (64-bit).
- Structure: I have a sync-sequence (multicam source sequence) consisting of XDCAM-EX (file structure broadly along the lines of AVCHD) and Z1 (plain m2t files). Derived from / dependent on that is a multicam edit sequence, where I cut between camera angles. Then that sequence is itself nested in a master sequence (showing selected extracts of the performance).
- For reference purposes: Multicam edit sequence consists (among other things) of a rock band’s “big finish” followed by some applause. I made a cut in the audio part (only) of the nested sequence clip, to enable the audio for the applause to be normalized independently of the band performance. To smooth the join I added a crossfade transition over the cut. Nicer in principle than using volume envelopes.
- When I play the original recording or the multicam sync-sequence or the multicam edit-sequence, all looks and sounds fine.
Problem:
- When the Master sequence is played back (in preview or an exported/encoded clip) I hear the big finish, then applause starts, then after 2 seconds the “big finish” is heard once again, but at lower audio level.
- This effect happens wherever I have used the same cut/normalize/crossfade technique in the (nested) multicam edit sequence. I have also encountered it in previous projects in Premiere CS6.
- If I delete the crossfade then the problem disappears… Doesn’t matter what type of audio crossfade is used.
Solution:
- Open (in timeline) the Cut-Sequence (where one cuts between various multicam angles etc)
- Menu:[Sequence > Render Audio]
As per my posting in the Adobe forum for Premiere:
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Title: Nested sequence: after a cut, audio repeats from previous clip
Oct 8, 2013 3:11 PM
Summary: In a nested sequence situation, I’m getting short audio repeats from a clip element just prior to a cut.
Context:
- Premiere Pro CC, latest version at time of writing (7.0.1 (105), under Windows 7 (64-bit).
- Structure: I have a sync-sequence (multicam source sequence) consisting of XDCAM-EX (file structure broadly along the lines of AVCHD) and Z1 (plain m2t files). Derived from / dependent on that is a multicam edit sequence, where I cut between camera angles. Then that sequence is itself nested in a master sequence (showing selected extracts of the performance).
- For reference purposes: Multicam edit sequence consists (among other things) of a rock band’s “big finish” followed by some applause. I made a cut in the audio part (only) of the nested sequence clip, to enable the audio for the applause to be normalized independently of the band performance. To smooth the join I added a crossfade transition over the cut. Nicer in principle than using volume envelopes.
- When I play the original recording or the multicam sync-sequence or the multicam edit-sequence, all looks and sounds fine.
Problem:
- When the Master sequence is played back (in preview or an exported/encoded clip) I hear the big finish, then applause starts, then after 2 seconds the “big finish” is heard once again, but at lower audio level.
- This effect happens wherever I have used the same cut/normalize/crossfade technique in the (nested) multicam edit sequence. I have also encountered it in previous projects in Premiere CS6.
- If I delete the crossfade then the problem disappears… Doesn’t matter what type of audio crossfade is used.
Is this a known problem? and is there a quick workaround? (other than using envelopes instead or copying/patching the audio up to the master level)
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113 Views 4 Replies Latest reply: Jim Simon, Oct 9, 2013 8:31 AM
Replies (excerpts):
- Jim Simon, Oct 8
- I do this kind of thing myself and haven’t yet run across this problem. Try rendering the audio in both the cut and Master sequence.
- DavidGaryEsp, Oct 9
- Ah so [Sequence > Render Audio] is not just a “luxury item” to get waveforms to display when nested or to (presumably) to lower CPU load (e.g. when audio effects have been applied). It’s something that I will need to always do from now on… It’s a shame there’s a “feature” but great to know of the workaround.
- By the way, only the cut-sequence required audio-render in order to remove the problem. But maybe it would be “good insurance” to audio-render all the sequences.
- Jim Simon, Oct 9
- I normally only do it when I have to.